tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7206230760891278528.post8506559725950635690..comments2023-10-31T17:09:36.316+00:00Comments on The Long Walk Home: Ukip, David Coburn Is Not The Gay Man You Were Looking ForJae Kayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17816403017115766947noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7206230760891278528.post-38300548593740189142014-05-26T20:49:59.166+01:002014-05-26T20:49:59.166+01:00You tried to redefine the English language, precis...You tried to redefine the English language, precisely as Orwell worried about.<br /><br />UKIP didn't.<br /><br />Any honest "debate" must start by you acknowledging that fact.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7206230760891278528.post-89745070728556411182014-05-26T20:05:48.661+01:002014-05-26T20:05:48.661+01:00You are the one talking in doublespeak, quote some...You are the one talking in doublespeak, quote some references/facts/evidence then we can have a chat. Instead of telling me how opposing same-sex marriage without putting forward a libertarian alternative change to how marriage works in this country (something I'd jump at!) is, in fact, libertarian you just criticise the Lib Dems to move the goal posts of the conversation without referencing how this shows Ukip in any better light. "Just as bad as the Lib Dems" doesn't inspire me with much confidence in the governing abilities of Ukip.Jae Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17816403017115766947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7206230760891278528.post-57006374556076518282014-05-26T20:00:52.270+01:002014-05-26T20:00:52.270+01:00Then you are "assuming" the exact and pr...Then you are "assuming" the exact and precise opposite of the facts.<br /><br />" dictating sexual mores and personal relationships is" is neither liberal nor libertarian, it is what your illiberal party does, in its Orwellian way.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7206230760891278528.post-46322224140591873282014-05-26T19:49:34.258+01:002014-05-26T19:49:34.258+01:00Obviously we'll need to know the original defi...Obviously we'll need to know the original definition then as I sort of read it as "believing in individual (and other levels above) liberty". <br /><br />I'm assuming what you are saying is that Government dictating sexual mores and personal relationships is somehow "libertarian"Jae Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17816403017115766947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7206230760891278528.post-29245152071187986252014-05-26T19:44:15.603+01:002014-05-26T19:44:15.603+01:00Libertarian is basically the modern term for class...Libertarian is basically the modern term for classic liberal. The fact is that liberalism works, UKIP is the liberal party, and the LDs have previously officially confirmed that you cannot be a classic liberal and a member of your party.<br /><br />That is why the LDs have no future. Don't blame anybody else, you did it to yourselves. Your claim to now redefine the meaning of "libertarian" is simply dishonest.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.com